[mail-vet-discuss] Draft as of 9/4/2007

[Dave Crocker]

Murray S. Kucherawy wrote:
> I'm talking more about reaching consensus here, and then exposing it to
> some of the communities you listed.  I've already pointed ietf-dkim at
> it more than once, but I guess the next steps are MAAWG "technical" and
> ietf-822.

Sometimes the "Last Call Before Submission" label on the request improves 
people's motivation to respond.


>>    a) Be able to demonstrate a broad base of direct support -- is 
>> there a reasonable extensive history of commentary and revision 
>> involving one or more open fora with an interesting range of active 
>> participants?
> In here yes, but this community is somewhat limited in size.  That's why
> I'm interested in exposing it to a wider audience.

Dandy.


>>    b) Be able to demonstrate a reasonable degree of implementation 
>> experience and preferably also some use experience, if practical.  
>> That isn't on any formal process requirement, but it makes a world of 
>> difference when debating against the inevitable abstract theory 
>> "criticisms" that seem to come from assorted well-intentioned, bright, 
>> naive folk in positions of some leverage.
> I think I've got this covered at least via the implementations I maintain.

For the concern I'm raising, probably not.  Remember that my focus is frankly 
less about technical competence than on demonstrating that there is a useful 
base of the community that is embracing the work.  Having a variety of folks 
do implementation, testing, and deployment is what serves that need.


>> It has had a thoroughly legitimate and productive development 
>> history.  So it's not that I am actually worried about the quality of 
>> the work, or spec. It's that I think it needs at least one more 
>> iteration of review by a somewhat broader audience, to gain a critical 
>> mass of demonstrable support.  (Unless I've missed that it's already 
>> been done, and gosh, that just never happens.)
> This is what I'm hoping to do next.

ack.

tnx.

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   Dave Crocker
   Brandenburg InternetWorking
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