[ietf-dkim] DKIM+ADSP = FAIL, and it's our fault

[McDowell, Brett]

(sorry Stephen, but I had to reply to this one)

On Sep 15, 2010, at 12:01 PM, Steve Atkins wrote:

>> That seems aligned with Steve's point about DKIM's value coming (only?) when the d= value is not the same as the domain-name in the from: field.  So according to you (and Steve?) the IETF should pass a normative requirement that all verified email be hired out to 3rd parties?!  That strikes me as very anti-Internet.
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> I think you're not reading carefully, and you're twisting Jeff's words and mine to a point that bears no resemblance to what either of us said.

As it turns out, you are completely correct and I withdraw that comment.  It just shows how entirely confused I was about what you and Jeff meant by 3rd-party signatures (which Jeff clarified in his response).  Jeff's definition of 3rd-party signature is entirely different from what I thought it meant (and what other experts have responded to me with off-list BTW).

I've taken this conversation off-list.