[ietf-dkim] draft-ietf-dkim-mailinglists-02 review

Bill.Oxley at cox.com Bill.Oxley at cox.com
Wed Sep 1 04:57:27 PDT 2010


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On Sep 1, 2010, at 5:18 AM, John Levine wrote:

>>> ANNEX A - MUA Considerations
>> 
>> Is a draft about mailing lists the right place to make recommendations
>> to MUA developers?  Seems like those should probably be in a separate
>> document.
> 
> No, but the entire document is riddled with advice that has no basis
> in experience and is unlikely ever to be implemented.
> 
> We have a serious problem that people in this group have deeply
> incompatible ideas of what DKIM does.  A lot of the arguments seem to
> be from people who believe that a DKIM signature can or should
> identify the individual author of a message, and that subscribers to
> mailing lists need assurances about the identity of list authors
> beyond the minimal level that has been adequate for the past twenty
> years.  I have trouble understanding how anyone who is familiar with
> DKIM or with the operation of mailing lists could hold these
> positions, but it is quite obvious that some do.
> 
> At this point, unless we can cut back the MLM document to stick to
> items that we have consensus about, e.g., that it is typical for
> signatures applied to incoming mail not to verify after a message
> passes through an MLM, and that it would be nice if a list or its MTA
> signed its outgoing mail, I don't think we will produce anything that
> is useful to anyone.
> 
> R's,
> John
> 
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