[ietf-dkim] ADSP and Discardable (was Re: Lists "BCP" draft review)
aiverson at spamresource.com
Wed Jun 2 08:50:15 PDT 2010
On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 10:43 AM, Dave CROCKER <dhc at dcrocker.net> wrote:
> On 6/2/2010 8:08 AM, Al Iverson wrote:
>> Agree. "Discard" and "silently discard" mean the same thing, in my
>> opinion. Though, I am guilty of using the phrase "silently discard."
>> Maybe in an attempt to be slightly over-specific.
> I do not recall seeing a dictionary or technical definition of "discard"
> that says anything at all about whether the discarder says anything at all.
> Taken on its own and without further technical specifications 'discard' does
> not direct, imply or request that the action be silent or noisy, and if
> noisy who gets to hear it.
I'm perfectly fine with being more explicit, but I do think there's an
implication of silent by the use of the word discard in the context of
email delivery. If it's not delivered, it's either bounced back --
rejected, with a DSN, or discarded. The 99.9999% example of this is
Hotmail, and their discarding is silent. I would also suggest that a
noisy discard, perhaps "discard + a status notification," (is there
any other kind there could be?) is already covered by the existing
case of a DSN/bounce.
So, by my own experience, my only experience with discarding, it has
always been and only been silent. Like I said, I'm fine with being
more explicit, but keep in mind that I sure that I am not the
exception as far as my understanding of what discard means in the
context of email delivery.
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