[ietf-dkim] discardable means discardable
hsantos at santronics.com
Sat Feb 23 21:25:02 PST 2008
John Levine wrote:
>> The discarding of email is one of the key causes of some significant
>> loss of trust in email as a reliable means of communication.
> Since I invented the term "discardable" perhaps I should explain why I
> mean discardable when I say discardable.
What else could it mean that hasn't been applied to the term discardable
in the history of mail? both physical and electronically? and more
specific in the trade, the "Discarding of Junk Mail?"
Unless you wanted to bounce mail in a POST SMTP DKIM process, thats all
you could do in a POST SMTP system is discard it, throw it away.
To REJECT it in SMTP terms, most experts will view that as a
notification signal as it applied in practice, either dynamically at the
SMTP level or with a accept/bound action.
Anything short of that is discarding the mail. You were not the first to
invent the term NOR the idea of "Discardable" mail.
But what I am more curious with is this statement:
> C) If a heavily phished domain asks you to throw away the
> apparent forgeries, do the world a favor and take their advice.
ASK? World a favor? I seem to recall using that phrase quite often in
my many PRO SSP discussions.
But it was appearing very clearlu that you, Wietse and others were
clearly against such "advice" and instructions from the domains.
No, there has to be something else that is nudging the receiver to heed
the advice from the domain. DAC Perhaps?
Also is there a qualification for asking a receiver to "discard" mail?
Can only Heavily phished domain ask? Can it be lightly phished? Is
there a certain threshold of "phished mail? Or does DISCARDABLE also
mean "No sorry. You are not suffering enough to have the right to ask me
to discard mail." ???
Hector Santos, CTO
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