[ietf-dkim] Proposal to amend SSP draft with a reportingaddress(fwd)

[Hallam-Baker, Phillip]

I am happy to say that DKIM MUST support the use of ARF as A reporting format 

I disagree that it should be the only reporting format supported. What we want today and what we will want in five years time are going to be different. ARF is a decent start but its limited. To go much further it is going to be necessary to use structured data.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: ietf-dkim-bounces at mipassoc.org 
> [mailto:ietf-dkim-bounces at mipassoc.org] On Behalf Of Damon
> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 10:44 PM
> To: O'Reirdan, Michael
> Cc: ietf-dkim at mipassoc.org
> Subject: Re: [ietf-dkim] Proposal to amend SSP draft with a 
> reportingaddress(fwd)
> 
> +1
> 
>  I believe that I was the one that asked for the feedback 
> loop a long time ago.
> I like the ARF format.
> Not really concerned about it being abused. I have far worse 
> in the postmaster box just as it is. It is just another tool to help.
> 
> Regards,
> Damon Sauer
> 
> On Nov 10, 2007 1:38 PM, O'Reirdan, Michael 
> <Michael_OReirdan at cable.comcast.com> wrote:
> > I agree. It would be a massive hassle for us to have to do 
> something else.
> >
> > Mike O'Reirdan
> >
> > ________________________________
> >
> > From: ietf-dkim-bounces at mipassoc.org on behalf of John Levine
> > Sent: Sat 11/10/2007 12:23 AM
> > To: ietf-dkim at mipassoc.org
> > Subject: Re: [ietf-dkim] Proposal to amend SSP draft with a 
> reporting 
> > address(fwd)
> >
> >
> >
> > >I gather that AOL has something where you (a sender) can 
> sign up to 
> > >receive an ARF feed of stuff you are sending that is 
> generating spam 
> > >reports.  It's probably a good guess that this or 
> something close to 
> > >it is what the big guys are using to share information between 
> > >themselves.  (Honestly, I don't know for sure if this is 
> what they do 
> > >use, but I assume so.)
> >
> > AOL, Hotmail, and Earthlink all have feedback loops that 
> return mail 
> > reported as spam in ARF format.  Works great.  (Nothing 
> secret about 
> > this, by the way.)
> >
> > Largely as an experiment, I've been sending all my spam 
> reports in ARF 
> > for the past year or so.  Other than the occasional ISP who 
> still is 
> > afraid to open attachments, they've been accepted very well, even 
> > without any prearrangement with the recipients.
> >
> > If you're going to send back reports about messages, via SSP or 
> > otherwise, it'd be nuts to use any format other than ARF.  
> You might 
> > want to add another couple of items to the report info, but ARF is 
> > designed to be easily extensible.
> >
> > R's,
> > John
> >
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