[ietf-dkim] Re: t=y

Hector Santos hsantos at santronics.com
Fri Nov 9 04:35:13 PST 2007


SM wrote:

 >> - A testing attribute should used for Migration ideas, by it its very
 >> natural definition, a testing attribute is limited in scope and time.
 >
 > Yes.  But it's not up to the specifications to define the scope
 > and time.

It can be open-ended without specifics. The point is, domain risk harm 
to themselves if they think t=y is going to be marginally viewed, There 
is high potential for abuse. Extremely easy to do and Murphy's Law says.....

 >> I guess if a DOMAIN adds t=y, then it really doesn't care what is
 >> the deposition of the message.  After all, its only a test.
 >
 > "t=y" means that the domain is testing DKIM.  Some domains can run a
 > test in a few days and reach a conclusion while others may require
 > in-depth testing.  The sender do care about the disposition of the
 > message, hence the test.

There you go, you have some form of inherent scope and time.

Personally, I think systems with DKIM today are using it to mean "We are 
in BETA mode!" because they had the t=y for years now.  Which is fine, 
but RFC4871 is official now.  No one should expect it to be *PERPETUAL* 
fail-safe concept and once, if ever, we get into full production with 
wider adoption, I don't think it is will be tolerated, again, and I 
repeat, especially when it *perpetually* fails.

I don't think I can avoid adding logic for a time table for domains with 
t=y vs the # of failures.   Domains with a high failure t=y rate will be 
pre-empted, trigging a skip process and a "unsigned status."  If it 
continues, the domain will be blocked, and reported to RBL sites - 
DOMAIN REPUTATION IS HARM UNBENOWST TO THE DOMAIN.

Keep in mind that systems like SPAM ASSASSIN will be taught to watch for 
such t=y marking.  A verifier might just record all this and this weight 
to the SA heuristics.

In a production environment, it only makes sense for the good primary 
domain to perform their test quickly and remove that attribute as soon 
as possible.

-- 
Sincerely

Hector Santos, CTO
http://www.santronics.com
http://santronics.blogspot.com




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