[ietf-dkim] Re: ISSUE: Better definition of "DKIM signing complete" required

Charles Lindsey chl at clerew.man.ac.uk
Tue Nov 28 05:04:25 PST 2006


On Mon, 27 Nov 2006 17:43:33 -0000, Hector Santos <hsantos at santronics.com>  
wrote:

> Charles Lindsey wrote:

>>  AFAICS, a List Expander has the following options:
>>  1. Ignore DKIM. Pretend it doesn't exist.
>>    The result of that is that list members (or their ISPs) will start  
>> regarding some messages with "suspicion", and maybe drop them. List  
>> members wll not be pleased.
>>  2. Refuse to subscribe (as contributors) sites with exclusive SSP  
>> policies.
>>    Will work, but will piss off people from such domains who want to  
>> participate.
>>  3. Manage the list so that signatures still work after passing through.
>>    I.e. don't change 'critical' headers, don't add stuff at the end of  
>> bodies, etc.
>>  4. Resign all messages yourself.
>>    Essentially, you are saying "I realise I may have broken the  
>> existing signature, but I assure you I verified the original signature  
>> and checked that it complied with the sender's SSP, and my new  
>> signature encompasses an X-verified header I added to testify to those  
>> checks. Trust me! I am a Good Guy!"
>>     And then you hope that your reputation is good enough that your  
>> highly suspicious recipients will indeed believe that you are a "Good  
>> Guy".

> The 5th item is STRIP and RESIGN as 3rd party
>
> The 6th item is STRIP and RESIGN as 1st party in behalf of the original  
> domain.

The difference in those last two is that they STRIP the old signature, I  
presume? Why should that help? Throwing away possibly useful information  
is not usually beneficial.

The last one, presumably, requires cooperation between the list admin and  
the original domain. Fine if that can be arranged, and if a highly  
sensitive original domain knows that it, or its users, partakes in some  
particular list, then well worth setting up. But too much to expect for  
the average domain and the average list.

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