accept, deny, or other delivery decisions (was Re:[ietf-dkim]SSP=FAILURE DETECTION)

Douglas Otis dotis at mail-abuse.org
Wed Sep 13 10:16:37 PDT 2006


On Sep 13, 2006, at 4:35 AM, Hector Santos wrote:

>>> It is because of that inconsistent DKIM reception handling  
>>> unknowns between different systems, we risk encouraging DKIM bad  
>>> actors to proliferate against the new creation of different  
>>> potential targets.
>>>
>>> In summary, the concern is that there is a risk when you don't  
>>> have a common DKIM-BASE handling concept.
>>
>> Could you give a simple example of this risk?  Please be brief.
>
> Real world example - DNSRBL

A bit too brief. : )

I assume you mean RHS-Block-lists based upon the DKIM signing domain?

Whether bad actors use DKIM or not does not appear to represent any  
added risk.

The limitations in a DKIM signing domain assessment will be exploited  
by bad actors.  DKIM has a rather major limitation requiring a  
message envelope to be considered independently from that of the  
signing domain.  This means there _are_ substantial risks for the RHS- 
Block-List operator.  This limitation requires stronger evidence of  
behavior approaching that of a criminal nature.  This requirement is  
well beyond what is normally adequate for listings in IP address  
block-lists.

Could you clarify your concern with simple example that illustrates  
what you want to see changed.  Again please be brief, but do provide  
the example.

-Doug



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