[ietf-dkim] Where to look for the signing practice

Jim Fenton fenton at cisco.com
Wed Aug 23 11:41:40 PDT 2006


[changed the subject line because this is straying a bit from the
delegation topic]

According to draft-allman-dkim-ssp-01, section 2.2, it would be the
From: address (or the first From address in the rare case that there is
more than one).  However, that's just a proposal at this point, but
since you ask "what do you use", that's what I would use.

-Jim

Hector Santos wrote:
> Jim,
>
> I consider the baseline situation where verifiers receiving non-signed
> messages and what you would use from the minimum 2822 headers available to
> extract the domain policy information.
>
> What will that be?
>
> In other words, if you have:
>
>   Received:
>   From:
>   To:
>   Subject:
>   Date:
>
> and no other DKIM fingerprints, what do you use to get the DKIM signing
> practice?
>
> --
> Hector Santos, Santronics Software, Inc.
> http://www.santronics.com
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jim Fenton" <fenton at cisco.com>
> To: "Scott Kitterman" <ietf-dkim at kitterman.com>
>
>
>   
>> Sorry, having trouble keeping the context of the discussion right.
>>
>> This could be done, but dilutes the simplicity argument that motivated
>> the Authorized Signing Domains approach in the first place.  Formerly
>> the ISP just signed using their own domain name; now they must create a
>> subdomain for each of their customers, publish keys there, and sign each
>> using the proper subdomain?  Or do they sign using i=@cust49.isp.com and
>> d=isp.com perhaps?
>>
>> But there is a residual problem.  Suppose jdoe at mipassoc.org is a
>> subscriber to this list and someone spoofs a message from
>> jdoe at mipassoc.org to the list.  ietf-dkim at mipassoc.org accepts the
>> message and sends it to isp.com, their Authorized Signing Domain, and it
>> is signed and sent.  Is the signature from jdoe (the author) or
>> ietf-dkim (the mailing list)?  Without Authorized Signing Domains, you
>> could tell by looking at the local-part of i=.  But now you can't.  I
>> think this is an important distinction, even if it only applies in a
>> subset of use cases.
>>
>> -Jim
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>
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