[feedback-report] Upcoming -02 ARF draft

Dennis Dayman dennis at thenose.net
Mon Oct 17 10:35:05 PDT 2005


Thanks for the clue-batting Gene! Sorry for the confusion.

-Dennis
 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: McKenna Gene - gemcke [mailto:Gene.McKenna at acxiom.com] 
> Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 12:08 PM
> To: Dennis Dayman; Yakov Shafranovich; 
> abuse-feedback-report at mipassoc.org
> Subject: RE: [feedback-report] Upcoming -02 ARF draft
> 
> 
> Actually the document is fine. The current draft is titled 
> "An Extensible Format for Email Feedback Reports". It is all 
> the other external references to the document that seem to 
> still be using a name like "Abuse Report". I believe the 
> document changed some time ago and external links, references 
> and personal habits have not been updated. 
> 
> Feedback is the more general term. Abuse is one type of 
> feedback that may be communicated in these feedback reports. 
> 
> Here are some examples where confusion might come in. One can 
> follow a link at http://www.mipassoc.org/arf/index.html that 
> says "Abuse Reporting Format" but leads to a document called 
> "An Extensible Format for Email Feedback Reports".
> 
> Down with ARF
> Viva FRF
> 
> Gene
> 
> 
> Gene McKenna
> VP Product Management
> Digital Impact Inc. an ACXIOM Company
> (650) 356-3661
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: abuse-feedback-report-bounces at mipassoc.org
> [mailto:abuse-feedback-report-bounces at mipassoc.org] On Behalf 
> Of Dennis Dayman
> Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 9:56 AM
> To: 'Yakov Shafranovich'; abuse-feedback-report at mipassoc.org
> Subject: RE: [feedback-report] Upcoming -02 ARF draft
> 
> Some people have expressed concerns in terms of confusion 
> around the naming of the document. 
> 
> They state that the word "abuse" is a report-type and because 
> the reporting standard reports on more than just abuse, we 
> should change the name to something like 
> "Feedback-Report-Format" or something other than a name that 
> contains one of the report-types in it
> 
> -Dennis
>  
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: abuse-feedback-report-bounces at mipassoc.org
> > [mailto:abuse-feedback-report-bounces at mipassoc.org] On 
> Behalf Of Yakov 
> > Shafranovich
> > Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 11:48 PM
> > To: abuse-feedback-report at mipassoc.org
> > Subject: [feedback-report] Upcoming -02 ARF draft
> > 
> > The existing -01 draft will expire on November 13th, 2005 
> and I have 
> > been working on the new -02 draft. I am hoping to get a -02pre1 
> > version out some time in the next two weeks with the final draft 
> > hopefully finished before the -01 expires.
> > 
> > First of all, I wanted to mention that the standard itself is not 
> > changing. I haven't seen any significant issues or feedback 
> with the 
> > way it is setup now, therefore I do not plan on changing the actual 
> > format.
> > The version number will therefore stay the same ("0.1").
> > 
> > HOWEVER, what I do plan on doing is making the actual draft more 
> > readable, addressing some of the comments from the 
> IETF-SMTP list and 
> > explaining how extensibility works (see my other list 
> message). I also 
> > want to add an ABNF section if possible.
> > 
> > I also would like to know whether any other changes are necessary.
> > 
> > Yakov
> > 
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