[feedback-report] misc comments
(on draft-shafranovich-feedback-report-00(pre I-D))
YakovS at solidmatrix.com
Fri May 6 08:13:35 PDT 2005
(Sorry for the delay, I had a lot on my plate this week)
Matthew Elvey wrote:
> On 4/29/05 3:41 PM, Yakov Shafranovich sent forth electrons to convey:
>> Matthew Elvey wrote:
>>> Big picture issues:
>>> One issue I see with this draft is that it's impossible to send such
>>> reports without specialized tools; normal MUAs can't send this mime
>>> Is that a feature or a bug? Another issue is that it implies that a
>>> reporter must craft a separate email for each reportee.
>> Both are features:
>> 1st issue - its intended for ISP to ISP communications primarly (i.e.
>> their abuse systems and things like AOL's scomp).
>> 2nd issue - this format is intended to cover the use case of one
>> report/message. Summaries and aggregate formats will follow as a
>> separate standard. ISP feedback affected both of these points.
>> Regarding the first point once more, I would really really really like
>> to write a Thunderbird/Mozilla Mail extension to generate these
>> reports but don't have the time to do so.
(someone is actually working on this)
> If it's for ISP-ISP communications, why an extension? And if a major
> user will be end-users, changes to address the above two issues seem
The second part will contain a set of metadata headers which would need
to be defined. That's is why I choose to extend RFC 3462.
> There used to be many abuse@ addresses that don't accept, or discard all
> attachments. That may have changed; I haven't sent anything other than
> plain text in to abuse-handling addresses in years. Actually, I do have
> one recent data point. I did send email to spamhaus, and because I
> wanted to show a chart, I sent a mail in dual text/html format; the
> recipient slogged through the plain text version.) I guess if you've
> spoken to a bunch of ISPs (both reputable and not-so-reputable ones),
> and they're all ok receiving attachments, then I've no objection.
The ISPs I have spoken to were fine with this.
> Yakov, let me know if my assumption that that
> draft-shafranovich-abuse-report-00 has been replaced by
> draft-shafranovich-feedback-report-00 is wrong.
This assumption is correct.
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